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1818## Discussions
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2121### General
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23+ * [ I made a flame graph renderer for git's trace2 output] ( https://public-inbox.org/git/87zhnuwdkp.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/ )
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25+ Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason sent an email saying he developed a script that uses the
26+ [ FlameGraph tool] ( http://www.brendangregg.com/flamegraphs.html )
27+ and the new
28+ [ Git Trace2 API] ( https://github.com/git/git/blob/master/Documentation/technical/api-trace2.txt )
29+ to generate a
30+ [ picture] ( https://vm.nix.is/~avar/noindex/git-tests.svg ) showing
31+ where Git's test suite spends its time.
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33+ He added that he plans to improve
34+ [ his script] ( https://github.com/avar/FlameGraph/commit/7a834718a12ed8b0d897ee90b00e2f654508cabd )
35+ over time and maybe submit it in a Pull Request to the FlameGraph
36+ tool, or perhaps integrate it in the Git test suite.
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38+ The Trace2 API, has been de
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40+ Derrick Stolee, who prefers to be called just Stolee, replied that
41+ he liked the idea and sent the commands using Ævar's script that he used to create
42+ [ another picture] ( https://github.com/derrickstolee/FlameGraph/blob/git-test/git-test.svg )
43+ from a much smaller test.
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45+ Gábor Szeder commented on Stolee's commands to ask why "GIT_TR2"
46+ instead of "GIT_TRACE2" was used in the environment variables
47+ related to the Trace2 API. Gábor refered to Ken Thompson "who
48+ (allegedly?) later regretted spelling creat()/O_CREAT without the
49+ 'e'..."
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51+ Jeff King, alias Peff, replied to Ævar's initial email asking
52+ "doesn't ` perf record -g make test ` already give us that granular
53+ data?" refering to the [ Linux perf tool] ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perf_(Linux) )
54+ which is already supported by the FlameGraph tool. Peff also
55+ wondered about the usefulness of such a graph:
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57+ > But having generated such a flamegraph, it's not all that helpful. It
58+ > mainly tells us that we spend a lot of time on fork/exec. Which is no
59+ > surprise, since the test suite is geared not towards heavy workloads,
60+ > but lots of tiny functionality tests.
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62+ Though he agreed that it could help in some cases:
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64+ > I think the trace2 flamegraph would be most useful if you were
65+ > collecting across a broad spectrum of workloads done by a user. You
66+ > _ can_ do that with perf or similar tools, but it can be a bit awkward.
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68+ Ævar replied that his "actual use-case for this is to see what
69+ production nodes are spending their time on, similar to what Microsoft
70+ is doing with their use of this facility."
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72+ Jeff Hostetler, who initialy authored the Trace2 API
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2575### Reviews
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